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Tuesday, July 31, 2012
More on Mexico issues
Friday, August 03, 2012
Interview with Alberto Diaz


Tracing back the FMM/SCT issue
THURSDAY UPDATE: Just a quick note after yesterday's blog: just talked to Alberto Diaz at the Consulate General's office. He said they are working on an official statement for WON, and that we should get it by this Monday's deadline. He also referred back to the press release (see below) when asked the question, "Do private boaters need an FMM?" My other big questions: "where can private boaters even get this FMM? Is IT available in Tijuana?"
 
So far, trying to put a story together continues to have plenty of questions, but no hard answers.
 
It's hard to put a dart in when and where the face of fishing Northern Baja within 24 miles of land changed so drastically. But the press release from the Consulate General of Mexico in San Diego from March 12 of this year--which is the only publicly released document most anglers have seen--was certainly the most confusing piece on the subject. 

In order to talk about the FMM issue (which also includes needing a SCT Permit for sportboats) everything has to start with the release. It's in the blog below, with highlights I made that put an emphasis on yesterday's blog points. Anyone who would like the pdf of the release can e mail me at brandon@wonews.com

In the meantime, there are still more questions than answers. Can long range boats fish islands like Cedros on multi-day trips? That's part of what I'm trying to figure out. I have a call in with Alberto Diaz, the media contact at the Consulate General's office. He's supposed to call me back at 11:30 a.m. When he does, I'll update the blog. 


Consulate General of Mexico in San Diego 
Press Release # 06/2012 
March 12th, 2012 

REQUIREMENTS TO ENTER MEXICO FOR RECREATIONAL SPORTSFSHING ACTIVITIES 

In order to respond to recent requests for information regarding the procedures to be followed, and the permits to be obtained by foreign tourists entering Mexican waters for sport fishing activities, the Consulate General of Mexico in San Diego communicates the following:  
 
There is no visa or new immigration requirement for sport fishing purposes. U.S. citizens, permanent residents of the United States, and foreigners who carry any type of valid U.S. visa do not require a Mexican visa to enter the country as tourists for a period of up to 180 days. 
 
According to current regulations, US citizens that wish to enter Mexico for any purpose, including sport fishing, must:  (i) present themselves before migration authorities in a port open for international transit of persons. Ensenada is presently the nearest Mexican seaport to San Diego that offers this service; (ii) fill out the Multiple Migratory Form (FMM); (iii) present a valid Passport or any other valid form of government issued id; and make the tourist immigration rights payment of $294 (Two hundred and ninety four Mexican pesos)   
  
Mexican law considers the possible participation of consignee agencies. Their function is to support all administrative procedures, such as gathering information, filling out forms and payment of fees. The hiring of the aforementioned services for recreational or sport fishing vessels for private use is not mandatory. Fees charged by consignee agencies are not part of the government rates applicable to the issuance of various permits.  


It is also required for every person that intends to enter Mexico for sport fishing activities to obtain the individual sport fishing permit, issued by the National Commission of Aquaculture and Fisheries (CONAPESCA). This permit may be processed at: http://e5cinco.conapesca.gob.mx. Fees as of January 2012 are:   
  
  
 
1 day                       $110 Mexican pesos 
1 week                     $ 276 Mexican pesos 
1 year                      $ 553 Mexican pesos 
Excursion                $ 787 Mexican pesos 
 
 
 
Commercial recreational or sport vessels, Mexican or foreign-registered, that will make use of any Mexican port must obtain a permit for the provision of tourism services. This is issued by the Secretariat of Communications and Transportation (SCT) and must be requested in advance to the corresponding Port Captain’s Office. This requirement is not applicable to private vessels that engage in sport fishing in Mexican waters. 
 
 
The Secretariat of the Navy (SEMAR) is empowered to carry out inspections in local and foreign vessels navigating Mexican territorial waters in order to ensure compliance of applicable regulations.  
 
The promotion of tourism to our country is one of the high priorities of the Mexican government. Information will be provided in a timely manner about new measures to be taken to facilitate the entrance of foreign tourist to our territory, including those tourists that wish to do sport fishing in Mexican territorial waters.

(Blogger's note: so where's the information?) 
Reader Comments
That just killed my 6 day to gudalupe island. This SUCKS!!!
Byron
so ok what is Mexico going to do if us tourist just boycott all together the Mexican tourist dollar is a big part of baja,s economy
Scott Dickenson
Was: Tracing back the FMM/SCT issue, Re: Sound Off; “HELL NO, I WON’T GO!” WON, Wednesday, April 6, 2012. Brandon, I have been keeping up with the San Diego Landing fish counts as well as your blogs and articles in WON. Last week one of your blogs said the San Diego Landings had stopped offering FMM forms and that MX Tour Assist went out of business. The fish counts the past week were ‘off the hook’ if you pardon the pun. It appeared, at first blush, that the Mexican Government has seen the error of their ways and had backed off. Perhaps, I thought, I made a mistake when I wrote the ‘Sound Off’ letter titled “HELL NO, I WON’T GO!” …fishing in Mexican waters. Yes, I was considering sucking up my pride and making a reservation on one of the 2½ day boats out of San Diego. And then the FMM/SCT issue reared its ugly head again. It appeared my Sound Off letter was both right and wrong. I was wrong: The Mexican Navy had the decency to warn boats fishing the Coronado Islands about their new policy rather than boarding them and escorting them into port. I was right: The more things change, the more they stay the same. It appears the left hand of the Mexican government does not know what the right hand of the Mexican government is doing. And, it appears to this writer that ordering boats departing from a U.S. port to check into Ensenada to obtain a FMM/SCT as well as verify all anglers have a Mexican fishing license and check out of Ensenada to verify (who knows what) is a further attempt to transfer wealth from the United States to ‘earmarked’ levels of the Mexican government. I am glad all this went down BEFORE I made my reservations in San Diego. I would have felt very stupid.
Jack Lockhart
Thanks for your work on this Brandon. It is helpful to hear what is going on or for that matter a lack of information from the Mexican governmnet. I know that many have questions as to what they need to do to be "legal".
Robert Peterson
Very interesting, can you tell me why the current from the Coriolis effect creates a higher fish count ? It's my understanding prey to species like WSB have a slow response to changing light levels hence the gray light bites. WSB take adv antage of the opportunity being abble to temporarily see better than the prey and feast while they have the advantage easy pickings. Light levels play a major roll in the ocean food chain from the scatterring layer rising and falling to transparent species so as not to create a silhouette and bioluminescence emitting fish to match the hatch of the light level they are in to reduce a silhouette. It's all about not being seen and being seen depending on what species you are and if you are eating or hideing, hideing in low light levels is what most species in the ocean or for that matter the world do. The sun reaches about 660' in a clear sky in the middle of the day depending on the weather and chlorophyll and salinity content and the moons light in a clear night penetrates approximately 230'. Different species have different eye sight capability depending on their prey preference like common threshers are primarly day feeders on surface prey with cat looking eyes opposed to mako or swordfish and big eye threshers large black eyes are primarly nocturnal low light feeders because of their advantage of being abble to see in low light levels. Light levels are a major part of my effort off shore targeting big game species and includes their prey species. The moon creates the Coriolis effect creating current raising nutrients kicking in the phytoplankton blooms kicking off the food chain but near shore is primarly effected by upwelling but in the case of the islands you have a lot of contributing factors from cyclonic and anticyclonic meanders fronts and currents ekman flow etc. Taking everything in to consideration including different depths canyons shelf and different locations on the island and light levels tides on and on it gets insane. That said patterns can be a way to determine what is happening and is a big part of science so the fish reports are interesting. Friend in Florida said that everyone has a different opinion on what moon phase is best for swordfishing but they all also usually only go when the moon is in a certain phase. OK i'm done vomiting some of the crap in my crazy head i know it's ugly and drives me crazy but it's been very productive.
Night Stalker
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